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    Without a doubt, you have often heard the claim that Jesus is God, the
    second person in the "Holy trinity." However, the very Bible which is
    used as a basis for knowledge about Jesus and as the basis for doctrine
    within Christianity clearly belies this claim. We urge you to consult
    your own Bible and verify that the following conclusions are not drawn
    out of context:

    1. God is All Knowing.....but Jesus was not
    When speaking of the day of judgment, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a
    limitation on his knowledge when he said, "but of that day and hour
    knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the
    son, but the Father." Mark 13:32, and Matt 24:36. But God knows all.
    His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of his own
    admission, did not know when the day of judgment would be, is clear
    proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, and that Jesus is therefore not
    God.

    2. God is All Powerful.....but Jesus was not
    While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the power
    he had was not his own but was derived from God when he said, "Verily,
    verily I say unto you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he
    seeth the Father do..." St. John 5:19. Again he said, "I can of mine
    own self do nothing: as I hear I judge: and my judgment is just;
    because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath
    sent me." St. John 5:30. But God is not only all-powerful, He is also
    the source of all power and authority. That Jesus, of his own
    admission, could do nothing on his own is clear proof that Jesus is not
    all-powerful, and that therefore Jesus is not God.

    3. God does not have a God.....but Jesus did have a God.
    God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call upon
    nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was one whom
    he worshipped and to whom he prayed when he said, "l ascend unto my
    Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." St. John 20:17. He
    is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, "My God, my God
    why hast thou forsaken me?" Matt 27:46. If Jesus were God, then
    couldn't this be read, "Myself, myself why hast thou forsaken me?"
    Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord's prayer
    (Luke 11:2-4), was he praying to himself? When in the garden of
    Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup
    pass from me: Nevertheless not as I will but as thou wilt." Matt
    26:36-39. Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own
    admission and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped, and prayed
    to another being as God is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God.

    4. God is an invisible spirit.....but Jesus was flesh and blood
    While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that
    this could not be done with God when he said. "No man hath seen God at
    any time." St. John 1:18. '"Ye have neither heard His voice at any time
    nor seen His shape." St. John 5:37. He also said in St. John 4:24. "God
    is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in
    truth." That Jesus would say that no one had seen or heard God at any
    time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that
    Jesus was not God.

    5. No one is greater than God and no one can direct Him but Jesus
    acknowledged someone greater than himself whose will was distinct from
    his own.
    Perhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not
    equal, and therefore not one and the same, come again from the mouth of
    Jesus himself who said in St. John 14:28, "My Father is greater than
    I." When someone referred to him as good master in Matt 19:17, Jesus
    responded, "Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that
    is God..." Furthermore, Jesus drew clear distinctions between himself
    and God when he said, "I proceeded forth and came from God, neither
    came I of myself but He sent me." St. John 8:42. Jesus gave clear
    evidence of his subordination to God, rather than his equality with
    God,when he said in Luke 22:42, "not my will but thine be done" and in
    St. John 5:30, "I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father
    which hath sent me." That Jesus would admit that he did not come into
    the world on his own initiative but was directed to do so, that he
    would acknowledge another being as greater than himself, and that he
    would negate his own will in deference to affirming the will of
    another, give clear proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One and
    therefore Jesus is not God.

    Conclusion
    The Church recognizes the Bible as the primary source of knowledge
    about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that Jesus is
    not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon what
    basis have you come to believe otherwise?

    My brother or sister, the belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity is
    false and completely inconsistent with the words of Jesus as presented
    in the Bible. God is one, not three. He is a perfect unity.

    If you are interested in the truth about God and your relationship to
    Him, we invite you to investigate the religion of Islam.


    What is the word of God about Jesus:

    A. Regarding Sonship of Jesus:
    That is Jesus, son of Mary, in word of truth, concerning which they are
    doubting. It is not for God to take a son unto Him. Glory be to Him!
    When He decrees a thing he but says to it "Be", and it is. (Qur'an
    19:34,35).

    And they say, 'The All-merciful has taken unto Himself a son.' You have
    indeed advanced something hideous. The heavens are well nigh rent of it
    and the earth split asunder, and the mountains well nigh fall down
    crashing for that they have attributed to the All-Merciful a son; and
    it behoves not the All-Merciful to take a son. None is there in the
    heavens and earth but comes to the All-Merciful as a servant (Qur'an
    19:88-93).

    Truly the likeness of Jesus, in God's sight, is as Adam's likeness; He
    created him of dust, then said He unto him, "Be", and he was. (Qur'an
    3:59).

    People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and say
    not as to God but the Truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only
    the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a
    spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers. and say not,
    'Three', Refrain, better is it for you. God is only One God. Glory be
    on Him - that He should have a son! To Him belongs that which is in the
    heavens and on the earth, God suffices for a guardian. (Qur'an 4:171)

    B. Regarding Jesus being God:
    And when God said. 'O Jesus son of Mary,did you say unto men, "Take me
    and my mother as gods, apart from God?" He Said, 'To You be Glory! It
    is not mine to say what I have no right to. If I indeed said it, You
    knew it, knowing what is within my soul, and I do not know what is
    within Your soul; You know the things unseen. I only said to them what
    You did command me: "Serve God, my Lord and your Lord." And I was a
    witness over them, while I remained among them; but when You did take
    me to Yourself the Watcher over them; You are the witness of
    everything. (Quran 5:116,117)

    C. Regarding Crucifiction of Jesus:
    And for their unbelief, and their uttering against Mary a mighty
    calumny, and for their saying, 'We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary,
    the Messenger of God'...yet they did not slay him, neither crucified
    him, only a likeness of that was shown to them. Those who are at
    variance concerning him surely are in doubt regarding him, they have no
    knowledge of him, except the following of surmise; and they did not
    slay him of certainty... no indeed, God raised him up to Him; God is
    Almighty, All-Wise. There is not one of the people of the Book but will
    assuredly believe in him before his death, and on the Resurrection Day
    he will be a witness against them. (Qur'an 4:156-159)


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