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1. Data: 2005-01-17 18:44:25
Temat: Znowu ta Eastern Europe___dlatego Paypal nie chce wejsc do Polski
Od: "Patek" <g...@h...com>
Wielu pewnie napisze ze Polska zalicza sie do Central Europe a nie Eastern.
Dla nich to jest jedno i to samo.
EBAY, the internet auction website, is at the centre of an online scam
perpetrated by criminals using software that records their victims' details.
Gangs, originating from Russia and Eastern Europe, were behind a
number of attacks on people who were tricked into revealing their online
log-in details by e-mails purporting to be from eBay or internet banks.
Now the crooks are sending victims spam e-mails, which, when opened,
infect a computer with key-logging software. This silently records every
keystroke made by the user and sends online account log-in and password
details back to the criminals. This enables them fraudulently to use their
victims' accounts.
Internet banks and credit card companies have been defrauded already,
but the growing popularity of eBay, which lists two million auctions every
day, has made it the favourite target for the gangs.
The National Hi-tech Crime Unit (part of the National Crime Squad) and
fraud specialists from eBay are trying to trace the gangs.
Mick Randall, the unit's head of operations, said: "Once an eBay
seller has been infected with a key logger, criminals will be able to log in
to their account and see all the transactions that are being made. This will
allow them to see details of all the eBay-users who have made a bid for an
item.
"The gangs are using this information to steal money from unsuccessful
bidders by sending e-mails, purporting to be from the seller, informing them
that the winner has dropped out and asking them to send payment.
"Buyers will have no idea that the e-mail has come from a crook and
they often send money to the thief in the mistaken belief that they are
buying the advertised item, which will, of course, never arrive."
Another scam targets people signed up to PayPal, a money transfer
service owned by eBay. A gang member will log into the victim's eBay
account, using the password details stolen by the key logger, and use the
person's PayPal account to buy an item being sold on eBay by another gang
member.
Mr Randall said: "A Western Union BidPay cheque is sent from the
person's PayPal account to the thief after he or she has unwittingly won the
auction. The victim will have no idea that someone else has been into their
eBay account and done this until a bank statement appears at the end of the
month.
"These particular scams can be difficult to investigate because the
gang member who acted as the seller in the spoof auction will have proof
that a legitimate sale has been made."
The platform is also being used as a money-laundering tool by gangs,
who use a web of transactions to direct money into accounts set up using
stolen identity documents. The cash is then sent to gang leaders abroad
using money transfer services such as Western Union or Moneygram.
EBay has also been hit by "matrix auctions", in which the offer of a
minidisc, for example, is in fact just selling information on how to obtain
one. Fraudsters bury the exact sale details in obtuse terms and conditions.
Which?, formerly the Consumers' Association, claims that an average of
200 fraudulent transactions take place on eBay every day, with thieves
selling defective or non-existant goods. A spokesman said: "EBay is a
facilitator, not a seller. Traders should read the terms and conditions of
eBay use. This way they will know what they are covered for and be able to
identify a good seller or buyer."
EBay insisted last night that the platform was safe. A spokesman said:
"Since eBay began there have been over two billion successful transactions
between complete strangers, a testament to the success and safety of the
site. EBay uses state-of-the-art technology to ensure that the site is as
secure as possible. Additionally, nearly 1,000 employees at eBay and PayPal,
with backgrounds in law enforcement, customer support, advanced computer
engineering and analysis, are dedicated to making eBay one of the safest
places in the world to trade."
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2. Data: 2005-01-17 19:31:23
Temat: Re: Znowu ta Eastern Europe___dlatego Paypal nie chce wejsc do Polski
Od: "Fosgate" <f...@p...onet.usun.to.pl>
> Gangs, originating from Russia and Eastern Europe, were behind a
> number of attacks on people who were tricked into revealing their online
> log-in details by e-mails purporting to be from eBay or internet banks.
>
>
>
> Now the crooks are sending victims spam e-mails, which, when
opened,
> infect a computer with key-logging software. This silently records every
> keystroke made by the user and sends online account log-in and password
> details back to the criminals. This enables them fraudulently to use
their
> victims' accounts.
Taaaa, czyli keylogery podsyłane są tylko przez Rosjan, Polaków i innych
mieszkańców wschodniej europy ? Amerykańce czegoś takiego nie używają ?
Mam w tej kwestii zupełnie inne doświadczenia. Po pierwsze 100% spamu jaki
do mnie trafia reklamuje produkty z USA i pewnie stamtąd do mnie dociera.
Po drugie obserwując logi na moim domowym routerze większość prób włamania
pochodzi z zachodu w tym z USA. I kto tu jest tym złym ?
RF
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3. Data: 2005-01-18 08:01:02
Temat: Re: Znowu ta Eastern Europe___dlatego Paypal nie chce wejsc do Polski
Od: "Jakub Jewuła" <b...@s...com.pl>
> Wielu pewnie napisze ze Polska zalicza sie do Central Europe a nie
> Eastern. Dla nich to jest jedno i to samo.
Zostaw idiotow w spokoju.
q
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4. Data: 2005-01-18 10:38:48
Temat: Re: Znowu ta Eastern Europe___dlatego Paypal nie chce wejsc do Polski
Od: "Rafal 'Raf256' Maj" <s...@r...com>
f...@p...onet.usun.to.pl news:csh426$jk$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl
> I kto tu jest tym złym ?
No jakto kto - nie-amerykanie. Siedzmy cicho i sie cieszmy ze nam nie robia
operacji European Freedom ;-)
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